Comments on: This is the way the world ends, not with a bang but a whimper. http://www.skirtfulloffire.com/blog/2010/07/this-is-the-way-the-world-ends-not-with-a-bang-but-a-whimper/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=this-is-the-way-the-world-ends-not-with-a-bang-but-a-whimper Tucson-based Tribal Fusion Belly Dance Fri, 27 Jan 2012 21:19:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: djaef http://www.skirtfulloffire.com/blog/2010/07/this-is-the-way-the-world-ends-not-with-a-bang-but-a-whimper/comment-page-1/#comment-55 djaef Sun, 15 Aug 2010 08:15:54 +0000 http://www.skirtfulloffire.com/blog/?p=683#comment-55 I reckon Roger Waters got it right with his Amused To Death album. Cynicism and despair is the appropriate response for these times, despite it being optimism and positivity that we need. I can do my bit - in fact I often do - but it's a shitload of momentum we need to make a real shift in the global direction. Mostly we have denial or cheap talk. Great post by the way - it was really well written. I reckon Roger Waters got it right with his Amused To Death album. Cynicism and despair is the appropriate response for these times, despite it being optimism and positivity that we need.
I can do my bit – in fact I often do – but it’s a shitload of momentum we need to make a real shift in the global direction. Mostly we have denial or cheap talk.
Great post by the way – it was really well written.

]]> By: max http://www.skirtfulloffire.com/blog/2010/07/this-is-the-way-the-world-ends-not-with-a-bang-but-a-whimper/comment-page-1/#comment-53 max Fri, 02 Jul 2010 18:44:17 +0000 http://www.skirtfulloffire.com/blog/?p=683#comment-53 nobody told us that we couldn't do anything...beyond the walls of what little physics govern our gravity bound existence, this is a lawless universe. there was no "how to be a successful human" handbook. we only have each other. we're big dumb animals looking for ways to survive. at one point in time, that meant drilling for oil. then it turned into a corporate agenda and eventually THAT became the reason to survive. BP could explode and and disintegrate and nothing would change. The corporate empire could fall and then what? we would be infants yet again. a refreshing and enlightening change of pace perhaps, but something i don't think we're ready to deal with. this entire mess makes apparent the fact that we really have NO FUCKING CLUE as to what we're doing here. there will always be a "better" way to do it...but if we continue as an inherently destructive force of nature, then "better" may in fact mean leaving this planet so we don't do something even more retarded. of course that's ONE way to look at it...we could also decide to just get smart and take care of the planet we live on. but will that really happen? i just dont know. i think the worst thing any of us could do is decide that we suddenly have a solution...in the event of exploding suns, or black holes or the tesseract time cube apocalypse, who the hell are we to decide what's right and wrong? no, still, we shouldn't commit ourselves to living on a human perpetuated hell hole. but maybe we deserve that. maybe that was our lesson. maybe that's why we're here. i might be completely wrong, but as long as we're auditioning destinies, WHAT IF that was the point? destroy a planet, figure it out... don't do it again. do we really deserve the privilege of sympathy and hope when we clearly don't give a fuck? maybe we still do...because apparently, there are no rules. furthermore, do we really deserve ice cream and the internet when we're obviously too aroused to pull our dicks out of the earth's crust? what good is this massive array of technology and communication if we can't figure out how to use it beyond keeping tabs on our ex-boyfriend's new girlfriend? THIS IS a revolution. we have been in the middle of a revolution for almost 3 decades now, but we've been too bored to realize it! so what do we do when we're bored? we blow shit up. we go to war. we drill for oil. we make movies about aliens and spaceships and superhumans and armageddon and time travel...and still...ultimately, nothing has changed. we're homesick. i don't know where home is, but i don't think it's here. if it was, we wouldn't be mindlessly blasting holes into it's shell with the intention of doing the "right" thing. nobody told us that we couldn’t do anything…beyond the walls of what little physics govern our gravity bound existence, this is a lawless universe. there was no “how to be a successful human” handbook. we only have each other. we’re big dumb animals looking for ways to survive. at one point in time, that meant drilling for oil. then it turned into a corporate agenda and eventually THAT became the reason to survive. BP could explode and and disintegrate and nothing would change. The corporate empire could fall and then what? we would be infants yet again. a refreshing and enlightening change of pace perhaps, but something i don’t think we’re ready to deal with. this entire mess makes apparent the fact that we really have NO FUCKING CLUE as to what we’re doing here. there will always be a “better” way to do it…but if we continue as an inherently destructive force of nature, then “better” may in fact mean leaving this planet so we don’t do something even more retarded. of course that’s ONE way to look at it…we could also decide to just get smart and take care of the planet we live on. but will that really happen? i just dont know. i think the worst thing any of us could do is decide that we suddenly have a solution…in the event of exploding suns, or black holes or the tesseract time cube apocalypse, who the hell are we to decide what’s right and wrong?

no, still, we shouldn’t commit ourselves to living on a human perpetuated hell hole. but maybe we deserve that. maybe that was our lesson. maybe that’s why we’re here. i might be completely wrong, but as long as we’re auditioning destinies, WHAT IF that was the point? destroy a planet, figure it out… don’t do it again.

do we really deserve the privilege of sympathy and hope when we clearly don’t give a fuck? maybe we still do…because apparently, there are no rules.

furthermore, do we really deserve ice cream and the internet when we’re obviously too aroused to pull our dicks out of the earth’s crust? what good is this massive array of technology and communication if we can’t figure out how to use it beyond keeping tabs on our ex-boyfriend’s new girlfriend? THIS IS a revolution. we have been in the middle of a revolution for almost 3 decades now, but we’ve been too bored to realize it! so what do we do when we’re bored? we blow shit up. we go to war. we drill for oil. we make movies about aliens and spaceships and superhumans and armageddon and time travel…and still…ultimately, nothing has changed. we’re homesick. i don’t know where home is, but i don’t think it’s here. if it was, we wouldn’t be mindlessly blasting holes into it’s shell with the intention of doing the “right” thing.

]]> By: Lindsey Marks (Lady Jack) http://www.skirtfulloffire.com/blog/2010/07/this-is-the-way-the-world-ends-not-with-a-bang-but-a-whimper/comment-page-1/#comment-52 Lindsey Marks (Lady Jack) Fri, 02 Jul 2010 16:38:10 +0000 http://www.skirtfulloffire.com/blog/?p=683#comment-52 I think it's pretty critical that we, as a culture, begin to A. fully embrace the concept of putting value to the practice of ethics and spirituality beyond organized religion...and look critically at how we establish ethical values. Even with things like facebook. We are dealing with massive technological shifts to our world without having strong structure of how to analyze that on a philosophical level. How do we behave online? What is ethical there? And what are ethical business practices? B.) In a world that is driven by profit, technological advances, industrial advances, decision to drill etc etc etc...those decisions, as far as I can see, are pushed to action far far before anyone has real understanding of the ramification of actions. And the consumer becomes powerless to claim actual need - you MUST have the newest brightest technology now or be left behind culturally. Companies tell you what you need, and put it out before it is ready. And our capacity to effect our environment I believe has far outshot our current capacity to understand the impact of that effect, even if we care about that. And many people haven't gotten to the point where they even CARE about that. It is frightening and this is the result. I think it’s pretty critical that we, as a culture, begin to A. fully embrace the concept of putting value to the practice of ethics and spirituality beyond organized religion…and look critically at how we establish ethical values. Even with things like facebook. We are dealing with massive technological shifts to our world without having strong structure of how to analyze that on a philosophical level. How do we behave online? What is ethical there? And what are ethical business practices? B.) In a world that is driven by profit, technological advances, industrial advances, decision to drill etc etc etc…those decisions, as far as I can see, are pushed to action far far before anyone has real understanding of the ramification of actions. And the consumer becomes powerless to claim actual need – you MUST have the newest brightest technology now or be left behind culturally. Companies tell you what you need, and put it out before it is ready. And our capacity to effect our environment I believe has far outshot our current capacity to understand the impact of that effect, even if we care about that. And many people haven’t gotten to the point where they even CARE about that. It is frightening and this is the result.

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